Ethan Johns on working with Paul and what's next for his own solo career
Paul and Ethan Johns.
Early last year, Ethan Johns got a special request from Paul."I got a call saying, 'Would you like to go into the studio with
Paul?'" recalls the English producer. "And of course I said, 'I would
love to!'"
Paul was in the process of auditioning producers for his 16th
solo studio LP, due out this fall. He called Johns because he liked his
work with Kings of Leon. "It was very low-key," says Johns (whose father is Beatles, Stones and Who
producer Glyn Johns). "[The idea was,] 'Let's just go and hang out for
a few days, play some music, have a bit of fun and see what we come up
with.'"
Paul and Ethan Johns hit it off immediately after meeting up at
London's AIR Studios, where they cut a ballad called "Hosannah" to
analog tape using vintage instruments. "The first day we had was
remarkable," says Johns. "He walked in with this incredible song, we
threw up a couple of microphones and within four hours, we had this
great track. I think we did an edit between the first two takes. It had
an incredible feel – a really evocative piece of music, a very
interesting lyric, and the performance was great. Then we started to
experiment with it, and I put a bunch of psychedelic strangeness on it.
You have fun. 'Oh, try this! Do that!' It's just very inspiring to be
around."
Johns was impressed by how open Paul was to collaborating. "The
first thing he said was, 'What do you feel like doing?'" Johns says. "I
could have said, 'Let's spend the day making percussion loops with drum
machines,' and he would have been, 'Great! Let's do that!' I don't
think he ever said 'No,' which is kind of the mark of who he is as an
artist, really. He's always up for trying something new."
They continued working together one-on-one at Abbey Road Studios,
where Paul laid down guitar, bass, drums and keyboard parts (again
recording to tape); Johns contributed guitar, keys and drums. "It was
revelatory for me, recording Paul in that space having listened to the
sound of those Beatles records," says the producer. "He plugged in his
bass, I put a microphone in front of it, walked upstairs into the
control room, pushed the fader up, and [that sound] came out of the
speakers immediately. I didn't have to do anything! It was a pretty
major light bulb for me. People get so fixated on the equipment and the
gear, and those things are important – but ultimately, the bass sound on
Revolver is Paul. Paul could be playing anything and he will get that sound."
Johns and Paul recorded a total of four new songs over the three
to four weeks they spent in the studio. It remains to be seen how many
of those songs will end up on the final album, which has no confirmed
title or release date; over the past year-plus, Paul has also cut
potential tracks with producers including Mark Ronson, Adele hitmaker
Paul Epworth and Giles Martin (son of Beatles producer George Martin).
Since working with Paul,Johns has continued to expand his impressive resume, producing Laura Marling's excellent album Once I Was an Eagle. He's also stepped in front of the microphone for a solo album of his own, If Not Now Then When?
"I would make recordings with my friends, but we were just having fun,"
Johns says of how his solo career started. "It's pretty much all we do,
anyway. We just sit around and play music and make recordings of it.
But I found after a few sessions that there was something special about
these ones."
After wrapping a short North American tour If Not Now Then When? earlier
this month, Johns was off to meet his old friend Ryan Adams at Adams'
Los Angeles studio. Johns has produced several of the
singer-songwriter's albums, including 2000's Heartbreaker and 2001's Gold.
This time around, they're switching roles, with Adams producing Johns'
next project – a narrative-based concept LP. "I won't give you the story
exactly, because we'd be here all day," Johns says with a laugh. "But
it follows a pair of brothers that were born on a farm in England, one
of whom is quite innocent and the other one is slightly more complex and
a darker character. They end up coming out to America around the turn
of the century, maybe a little bit before. And the story is of the
younger brother trying to find the older brother, who's becoming more
and more famous for his exploits as he travels across the country."
Adds Johns, "I'm loving writing it. It's quite a challenge, I have to say! But it's nearly there."
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